Toxic Fandom: When Criticism and Entitlement Go Too Far – GeekDad
I rarely post about VLD, but this article is a great read for tracking the history of antis in fandom spaces generally.
Toxic Fandom: When Criticism and Entitlement Go Too Far – GeekDad
I rarely post about VLD, but this article is a great read for tracking the history of antis in fandom spaces generally.
jakathine said
my take is they could’ve handled showing adam a bit better, but the way they showed it wasnt queerbaity. these folks nowadays i dont think truly understand what actual queerbaiting is. idk if it’s they just dont have the show/movie history to know or they’ve just forgotten. i know people are getting more used to full fledged rep so they’re getting very sour when it’s not there but not all industries support that. fandom’s a mess right now.
Very likely many of them aren’t familiar with fandom history and acceptance of queer content in media, given the way even the relatively recent Superwholock era of Tumblr is perceived by newer fans nowadays. I even saw one person saying that if VLD revealed a queer relationship in its last season or episode like LoK did with Korrasami it would be cowardice on the writers’ part, which…no.
For my part Adam barely registered as a character for me, and as he’s more of a plot device than anything that feels intentional. The swath of people who immediately dove into shipping him with Shiro based on what is in essence a breakup scene (and that tells us nothing about Adam as a character beyond some contextual extrapolation) confuses me immensely. Well, aside from the role it played in the fandom’s raging shipping war, that’s pretty obvious.
I finished S7 this morning. It was alright, although I knew going in that I wasn’t going to find the Earth segments very interesting. Still a good season for most of my favorite characters, and I imagine great for those who like the show’s action sequences. Naturally, my opinion here exists independently of the fandom imploding in all manner of absurd ways, foremost of them the basic misunderstanding of what queerbaiting actually is. Maybe we can start using “self-imposed queerbaiting” as a more accurate term?
I finished the Voltron rewatch just in time…not that I’ll get to watch S7 until tomorrow evening on account of my schedule. The plot makes more sense now, even if I still don’t find it highly engaging or as well integrated into the various character dramas as in AtLA and LoK. I also still don’t get the extreme popularity of the fandom’s big ship, considering these characters haven’t interacted in any meaningful way since S3 or so. I can certainly understand where it came from – rival ships always have their fans – but how we got from that innocuous start to…everything that it is now…is a question I’ve yet to answer.
And incidentally, canonically gay* Shiro does make the Sheith content all the more narratively satisfying.
*Bi/pan/other headcanons being fine as well, just not for me personally because I headcanon almost male characters I ship as gay to be closer to my own experiences.
jakathine said
at least s6 is very short, only 7eps overall. Very intense though. I think it’s my favorite season thus far
True. I’m not sure how I feel about the odd half-seasons that the show’s been doing since post-S2, though I think the last two are going to be full length? Either way there was still a bunch of stuff in S6 I had to really reach into my memory to recall or just cheat and look up online, so if I don’t have to do that again so much the better.
georg-prime a dit
Hello fellow Voltron fan, I would just like to say that yes rewatching before next season is a good idea, I’ve been doing that this week and seeing the whole thing with what I know now after s6 and the revelations from SDCC is nice. I also took the opportunity to watch this time in French. And this is the other thing I wanted to say, I am delited to see the term Gascon and that flag, born in Gascogne here 😉
*and obviously I am not fluent enough in English not to make embarrassing mistakes urgh*
Non, ton anglais est facile à lire! En tout cas je préfère parler à mes compatriotes dans notre propre langue, pas dans la langue des nos ennemis. C’est souvent une nécessité malheureuse parce que les affronts subis par les Français en Louisiane, mais malgré cela je peux la lire assez bien. Mon écriture, d’autre part…
Mais oui, je suis un gascon par la famille de mon père, d’où le nom de mon blogue. Mes autres ancêtres sont venus de tous les coins de la France, mais j’ai une affection pour cette province en particulier. J’aimerais la voir un jour. Le drapeau est un design populaire parmi les Louisianais ; la fleur-de-lis est un symbole commun pour les Français en Amérique – voir aussi le drapeau de Québec.
Je déteste que les médias en français (originals ou en traduction) sont très rares aux EU, même ici en Louisiane. Je suis heureux que tu peux regarder l’émission comme ça. Certes, quand je la revois ce sera une nouvelle expérience.
It occurs to me that if I plan to rewatch Voltron in anticipation of S7’s release next Friday I’m going to have to start soon or else I won’t be finished in time. It’ll be good to remind myself of all those plot points I couldn’t recall when I watched S6 without refreshing myself, and in light of certain recent revelations it’ll be good for some new character examination.
(I’m also going to be looking at ships, less so the one for which I already have a pretty solid grounding and more so the very loud and infamous fandom juggernaut whose popularity eludes me to this day. But, you know, gay-or-otherwise-into-men Shiro helps out with the former anyway.)
I’m usually not one to follow extra-canonical content like interviews and answers at panels and such, but I do believe VLD just got a confirmed canon gay character with the promise that his ex-boyfriend will be appearing on the show itself in S7.
As much as I’m accustomed to dealing almost purely in subtext in fictional media, damned if it doesn’t feel good to have some text for a change.
I’m constantly bewildered by people thinking that No True
ScotsmanMLM would ever ship Sheith, that the only representation that matters is Klance, and that only Klance has mlm fans while every other ship has nothing but “straight women.” Listen, if Klance is what does it for you, great, but not everyone has the same tastes and emotional needs as you.I just get so tired of being spoken for by people who know nothing about me and think that their own little bubble of dudes who ship Klance is all there is. I personally know a lot of other queer men in the Sheith fandom, particularly on the discord.
Maybe the problem is that we’re not bothering to make our numbers visible, and antis are taking advantage of that silence? I don’t know. Maybe that’s an easy fix.
Hi, hello. I’m a gay man that really thinks canon Shiro&Keith interaction is an incredible basis for romance between two men. Their relationship that’s built on mutual trust, equality, comfort, and tenderness is exactly what I enjoy seeing in love stories. It’s valid as a platonic relationship too, and I’m not saying it must be made canon, but if I could choose any one VLD ship that would make amazing canon rep, it would be Sheith.
(@ any other men who love Sheith, feel free to reblog/comment and sound off on why you think Sheith is a great ship)
Not very active in shipping it (or anything else in VLD), but Sheith is definitely a strong and well-developed emotional core to a show I wouldn’t care much for otherwise on account of genre. It’s not that I dislike or ignore the other characters or oppose any other ships – although the extreme popularity of Klance in fanon continues to perplex me, when there’s comparatively so little there – but those two are a major draw.
paragonred said
To me Keith’s sudden age up seemed as if it was done so that people could ship Sheith without worrying about the age gap
Yeah, that story choice seemed rather deliberate, almost to the point of feeling artificial. Of course it also gave Keith time to bond with his mother (most of it implied/off-screen), but it also dropped a wolf pet on him out of nowhere that I’m still trying to decide if I want it to be relevant to anything. These showrunners have demonstrated a willingness to address fandom controversy directly in canon since back in AtLA, but at the same time I don’t think they wanted to be too definitive when there’s still a few seasons left. The “You’re my brother. I love you!” bit encouraged shippers and antis alike, with the latter now moving on from the age gap to complain even more loudly about alleged incest or pseudo-incest. This only reinforces the belief I’ve held for years that many of the female and other AFAB supporters of M/M ships in online fandom spaces have had little to no interaction with gay/bi male culture. And also, naturally, that ship wars will always rage on in spite of everything.